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Sunday, Notre Dame football coach under fire for Riley Leonard comments again. The comments came

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:43 am on Sep 23, 2024
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after Freeman was asked what he thought of his quarterback’s play against Miami.
“ “He was consistent. There are some throws he’s got to make. He knows that. We’ll clean it up in practice. Or guess what … if we don’t like the way he throws those plays in practice, then don’t call them you know?”
Freeman then explained he believes the Irish need to put Leonard in a place to succeed, which is far less odd than the part about not calling some plays because his starting quarterback can’t handle them.”
Unsurprisingly, fans weren’t thrilled


Link: https://slapthesign.com/posts/marcus-freeman-under-fire-again-riley-leonard-notre-dame-football-offense-comments-01j8dnyke43m

Replies to: Sunday, Notre Dame football coach under fire for Riley Leonard comments again. The comments came


Thread Level: 2

If Leonard were a 5th year starter, we could expect more from him.

Author: NedoftheHill (44678 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 12:52 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Does this imply we might not throw check down passes in a game because he can’t do it in practice?

Author: ndphysics (3932 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 11:53 am on Sep 23, 2024
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Maybe we should insist a QB at a major football school can do things we need him to, especially if u went and got him in the portal.

The leoanord issue has grown way beyond a kid struggling to make throws. MF looks and sounds pretty ridiculous on this subject


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That's crazy. Why would MF recruit and throw $1M at a noodle arm in the first place?

Author: SteveM (2197 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2011)

Posted at 11:14 am on Sep 23, 2024
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Thread Level: 2

This is a MF issue.

Author: bobdrake (738 Posts - Joined: Sep 30, 2021)

Posted at 10:53 am on Sep 23, 2024
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100% self inflicted

Author: ndphysics (3932 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 2:03 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Yep.

Author: NedoftheHill (44678 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 12:53 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Wasn't there a time that fans were calling for Ian Book to be replaced?

Author: ELP (9578 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 1:30 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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It peaked on that rainy night at Michigan. The next week started his redemption tour to become an all time fan favorite.Am I miisremembering?

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Most of the criticism was focused on Book's limitations

Author: ndunabomber (6475 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:59 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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The fact that Ian Book's arm was barely average, and couldn't make a reliable long range throw was the biggest criticism. It's not wrong to put forth those criticisms.

He was still the best man for the job, since he could run about 75% (my estimate) of Brian Kelly's ridiculously complex playbook, and still effectively spread the field. What we saw in his time as a starter was how effective things could be if you had a quarterback who could do most of the criteria. Against almost anyone, that's enough to win.

That was certainly good enough for two playoff appearances, and two decent bowl victories (Citrus, Camping World), but we weren't going to beat Alabama, Clemson (when healthy), tOSU, etc. with that level of performance. We needed a lot of help from Lady Luck, as well as Clemson missing most of their NFL drafted front seven in 2020 to beat them, and even then it was by the skin of the teeth. The rematch in the ACC Championship game proved that we were still not in that absolute top echelon.


Thread Level: 5

Miss representing .?

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:29 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Thread Level: 5

He was a warrior

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:01 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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I think Book & Reese were two guys who played better in games than at practice. Montana, too.

Author: NedoftheHill (44678 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:54 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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At least, when Montana was at ND (not to equate the 3 players). I believe Montana was constantly coming off the bench to save the starters from their lack of performance.

Other more heralded players were on those teams, but they weren't able to move the ball in games.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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neither were top QB’s.

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:44 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Agreed. My point still stands. They got it done better in games than the other QBs on the team.

Author: NedoftheHill (44678 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:06 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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So the other were really poor.

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:32 pm on Sep 24, 2024
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