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With no players union and a CBA that includes revenue sharing, the college football model is toast..

Author: SteveM (2197 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2011)

Posted at 12:01 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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With the Portal, players are mercenary free agents
Players' demands for compensation now are unbounded
To pay the players, profits from football will be driven into the ground
as all revenue up to the last dollar is used to pay the players

I'm not a lawyer, but the colleges will have to find a way
to legally collude to limit transfers and cap the salaries to players


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Thread Level: 2

When they are openly paid for play by the school instead of under the guise of outside sources

Author: ndinga (88 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2021)

Posted at 5:12 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Paying NIL.
They become minor league teams. Here is no pretense of student athlete and schools should dilute ties with the teams.
Soon the players get no education and make what mlb pays minor league guys….not much.


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Good!

Author: DonMiller (3087 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 4:37 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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The current deal their looking at is 22% to the players, so the schools are keeping most of it

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:18 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Who published that figure?

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:23 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Thanks for the info. Can you suppy a reference link? How can the schools legally collude...

Author: SteveM (2197 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2011)

Posted at 1:26 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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to limit payments to players without a collective bargaining agreement?

Thread Level: 4

Here's one

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:40 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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the 22 percent reference is pretty much everywhere

Link: https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/as-college-athletics-prepares-for-revenue-sharing-fallout-leaders-wonder-is-a-breakaway-from-the-ncaa-next/

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Thanks for the link. It looks like an injuction from Tennesse prevents limiting player compensation

Author: SteveM (2197 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2011)

Posted at 3:18 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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in deals with boosters. Not a lawyer, but if that opinion is generalized,
it appears that the schools may collude to limit to aggregate payouts,
(revenue sharing) but the players and boosters could still do side deals.
So there would be booster money on top of revenue sharing being
thrown at athletes with booster money being unbounded?

However this plays out, as usual a lotta lawyers are gonna make
a lotta money.


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SMU is going it the booster way

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:17 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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They joined the ACC and don't care about any revenue from the league because the boosters are rumored to be ready to pay lots of money for players.

The school is hoping football success will boost their national profile, like it did with Southern Cal during Pete Carroll's run there


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They may need an anti-trust exemption to collude.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:49 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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This will get more chaotic and distasteful until Congress acts.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:10 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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And Congress likely will do nothing.

Even then, we can't go back to the good old days. Gone are the days when "the lads" took the field for Notre Dame.

I used to try to keep my criticisms of individual players to a minimum. After all, they were "kids," students at my alma mater.

No more. I don't feel bad calling out a player for bad performances when he makes more money without an ND degree than I do with one.

And more and more players will look at the portal every year to improve their negotiating position. I don't blame them for it. But they can't expect me to be loyal to them and the current year's team, when they aren't loyal to the fans or the school.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Gonna have to move to contracts. Continual free agency will not work long term...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33498 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:46 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Yep.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:50 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The schools don't want to go back either, they're still making money, they're just sharing a

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:16 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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portion of the revenue, not giving it all to the players

Thread Level: 4

Without a CBA as a salary brake, aggregate player demands will be bounded only by total revenue.

Author: SteveM (2197 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2011)

Posted at 1:52 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Unless the colleges are permitted to collude to limit payments
the tragedy of the commons will destroy the system


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Thread Level: 5

The current trajectory is definitely not sustainable...

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:24 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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...and it leads further and further away from college football as we knew it.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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This was all set in motion by the schools, Florida recently opened a football facility

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:43 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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that they paid 85 million dollars for, just more evidence that this is just a big business and the money is there

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It's there for certain schools...but nor for the vast majority...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33498 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:49 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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Notre Dame could be one but will opt out.

I feel no later than two years...but depends how things develop...


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Many point out that ND was the school that started this

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:52 pm on Sep 23, 2024
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by opting out of the CFA TV deal and signing with NBC

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