It's interesting that all of the criticism of RL (and some of it deserved), everyone is blaming.....
Denbrock and MF, where is Guidugli in this narrative???? When MF hired him, he was supposed to be the "2nd Coming"; great QB developer (developed Desmond Ridder at Cincy into a Heisman contender & a 3rd round NFL pick), brings 13+ yrs. exp., was the OC at Cincy, etc. In 2023, he got Hartman to finish the ’23 campaign completing 63.5 percent of his passes for 2,689 yards with 24 touchdowns. Shouldn't we be asking what is Guidugli doing/not doing to earn his paycheck with the poor play of RL???
Replies to: It's interesting that all of the criticism of RL (and some of it deserved), everyone is blaming.....
I don't think Guidugli, MF nor Denbrock are to blame. After 3 years playing college football
you are what you are. At some point, no amount of coaching can change that.
if a kid is 18 and is inaccurate, it’s never gonna get any better regardless of the coach
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So untrue. Simple footwork issues can be corrected that improve accuracy tremendously.
Can't change a kids throwing motion once they're at that age, never works, but footwork issues are easily correctable and effective.
his problems are not footwork related
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Who's "he"? Read your comment again.
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Foot work issues should not be a problem for an Upper Class Major College QB. BTW, he
never sets his feet long enough to display issues. He's looking to run all the time, as he's not comfortable throwin
Just more ignorance from ya. At least you're consistent in your stupidity and lack of knowledge.
NFL QB's work on their footwork, moron.
Yea, he's an NFL prospect. Who's the moron?
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You clearly are, can't even comprehend your own comment. Nice try though.
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Stop the bravado. He’s a 5th year senior who has read and mechanical issues..
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Hensou, ol pal..he's eating your lunches because you're arguing with him against Leonard..
but he didn't say anything about Leonard.
He responded to a post that said "if a kid is 18 and is inaccurate, it’s never gonna get any better regardless of the coach"
Another idiot with lack of reading comprehension abilities.
No wonder this place is a cesspool anymore.
You are embarrassing yourself. You have zero gravitas.
Who are you to dismiss people’s opinions?
What kind of phenomenal athlete have you ever been?
I know that QB's at all levels need (and do) work on their footwork.
Something that ColeyO and Westcoast, think isn't true or necessary.
Which is about as ignorant as it gets, even for this place.
Don't need to be a great athlete to understand basic football 101 stuff that gets seen and talked about every day. Their ilk just wants to shit on ND's QB at any cost, no matter how stupid they look doing it.
So you have no real expertise. Just an opinion.
Riley Leonard should have better read and footwork by now.
He’s not freshman.
Played and coached, but thanks for asking.
ColeyO appreciates your coming in and sticking up for his ignorance with your own. Nice work.
Must not have been at a high level.
Thanks for pretending your opinion counts so much more than everybody else’s.
How come Nebraska never recruited you?
Did you go straight to the pros?
Yawn.....I'm right about QB's and footwork, deal with it.
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This is news. Post links please. All I recall is fantasies about potential, ceilings, and a bunch
Of “ifs”. While rarely getting the right guy, right.
Let's move on
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He is probably not used to coaching a full time Wild
Cat type of QB. You make do with what yr handed, if yr not the head coach
Riley is Easily the best running QB since Tony Rice. Let’s go win another natty!
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Negative
He's a good running QB, but to say that he is a better running QB than everyone in the past (since 1989) simply isn't true.
Jackson, Wimbush, Battle (from the limited sampling we saw in 2000), and Holiday were all better at running the ball.
Tap the brakes a bit, Jarious Jackson? Brandon Wimbush?
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I agree with Don regarding Riley Leonard running ability.
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He is really good, but "easily the best" is a bit of a stretch.
Think if Wimbush had an OC that didn't try to turn him into Tom Brady, we'd be singing a different tune about his ND career. Kid was a 6'3 235 lb gazelle.
Wimbush had all the physical attributes but had no touch. He truly was a gazelle though and his
running ability was off the charts. A key game for him was against Georgia. We could have won that game with a break or two, a turnover less, or better preparation for that last play call on defense by Georgia. They blitzed from the right side and caused the fumble that ended it. Ironically two years later the same blitz was called from the left side, which I could not believe we weren't ready for, and Book was forced to scramble and throw up a prayer at the end to Claypool who was held down trying to jump for it, which was clearly interference. We definitely should have beaten Georgia the year Book played.
Don is ALL GAS...no brakes...
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Don's sleeves reach farther than his arms.
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Maybe Don needs work on his footwork.
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Does he have a big dumb bald headed nephew coaching the NYJs?
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Fair question but do you develop a senior QB in fall camp? He missed spring ball.
The entire situation isn't ideal. His number never supported him being rated so high and he was injured prior to signing him. The coaches knew he would miss spring ball. I am curious, though, how much input Guidugli had in his evaluation and decision to bring him in.
Excellent Question, and deserves an answer
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Probably because with Leonard missing the Spring, he had all of a month for fall camp "development".
Leonard wasn't some high level passer before he got hurt, he was decent but mostly because the threat of him as a runner opened up easy passes for him.
Him missing the spring was massive and he's missing easy passes that he has the ability to make...so it's mental, most likely because he spent the spring taking "Mental" reps.
I don’t buy this garbage for a second. Apologies there, but he’s supposed to be a D1 QB. Missing his
3rd Spring did not produce the dumpster fire we’ve watched.
I’ll give it to you that at this point it’s in his head. However, he was never a good passer, ever.
Being a great Duke football player does not translate to ND. It’s a different level and we are seeing that with both RL and the absent Oben.
You should ease off your crusade and try reading more slowly..
I clearly said he wasn't a high level passer even before his injury and the passing success he had was mostly because of the threat of him as a runner opening up easy throws.
The difference between him here is not his level of competition...NIU, Purdue and fucking Miami of Ohio...are you kidding me?
The difference is he isn't even hitting those easy passes that he lived on before...it's not level of competition, it's that he's not playing as good as he did. If he gets his head straight and stays healthy we'll be fine and continue to improve. If he doesn't then we're fooked!
I read what you wrote. Highly tilted towards excuses. The stage at ND has proved to be too big and
that has exposed what RL was.
In RL's last NINE healthy GAMES. He has four TD passes and three picks. There is no development that will fix that.
Why would we pay 1 or $2 million for development?
That's total bullshit, everything I said was objective truth..
but you only like objective truth with it favors your crusade of the moment.
I said the following:
-RL wasn't a high level passer before he got hurt (objective truth)
-the passing success he did have was mostly from his threat as a runner opening up easy passes (objective truth)
-then he missed the spring which compounded things (more objective truth)
Didn't think I needed to mention that he missed spring, at a new school, with new team mates, new coaches, and a new offensive system since even though it's all objective truth, it's also just common damned sense.
Exactly, well said.
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Asked a similar question. It's really odd that he hasn't been seen nor has his name come up.
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