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Big conferences are getting a taste of the travel handicap ND has had to deal with for years.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:42 am on Oct 10, 2024
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Not as trivial as they said it was.

We considered it the price of independence. They do not like what it does to their performance.
Regular, cross country travel in the middle of the schedule isn’t as easily dismissed these days.


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Thread Level: 2

Franklin is a pussy...it has been known for a century that

Author: nddad98 (1524 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:38 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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travelling east is far more difficult for athletes than going west. That is why I questioned if any thought or sound reasoning was put into the PAC-12 disbanding...other than greed. Really tough for them to compete going east so often.

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The Decision Makers Care Little

Author: Fisher01 (6461 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:34 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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The $$ coming in is too great for super-conferences. If Nebraska cannot get away from the Big 10, no one will be able to short of a sharp correction in television revenue.

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You got that right, I live in Ped State country, you should hear....

Author: NEPA Irish (929 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2009)

Posted at 10:56 am on Oct 10, 2024
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how Hammerhead Franklin is whining about the long trip they have out to U$C this week!!! Hope the Peds get destroyed!!!

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Go into one of your local bars and yell -"We are PED State!"...Would love to hear what happens next!

Author: irishslovak (1358 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 1:57 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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What press conferences are you listening to?

Author: irishslovak (1358 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 1:13 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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Hammerhead Franklin was lamenting in a local newspaper article that the biggest airport near State

Author: NEPA Irish (929 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2009)

Posted at 2:48 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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College is 2 hrs. away in Harrisburg, and that his team needed to ride 2 hrs. in a bus and then fly 5 hrs. to L.A.....he's a pile of crap.

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I've had many arguments with PSU fans. But I never played the PED card. Catholics have had the PED

Author: irishslovak (1358 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 5:43 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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label put on them because of a few bad Priests. Sandusky is beyond a creep. He is a monster! Not all people associated with Penn state are PEDS,,,

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"A few bad priests.."

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25817 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:40 am on Oct 11, 2024
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It was more than a few. It was institutional.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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Small percentage.

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:16 pm on Oct 11, 2024
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Actually,

Author: murph78 (1929 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:04 am on Oct 11, 2024
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a small percentage of the overall number of priests did account for a majority of the cases. According to a study conducted by John Jay College in 2002, about four percent of the population of American priests were named in accusations between 1950 and 2002. And a smaller percentage of that four percent were named multiple times. Way worse than the general pop, obviously, but still a pretty small part of the entire priestly class.

Philip Jenkins and several other sociologists have studied and noted that, although the data are sketchy, the evil of child sexual abuse was possibly even more widespread in public schools. Many legal and institutional factors made it much easier ( and more lucrative!), however, to get the Church’s criminal actors than those in other settings dealing with children where abuse often occurs.

Not to say the Church didn’t deserve to feel the full force of the law. Peds need to be locked up and those who enable them need to be held accountable. But it is hard not to see a certain cynicism in the legal and media focus on the one setting of institutional abuse


Link: Jenkins on priest abuse cases

Thread Level: 8

Correct. A societal problem.

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:17 pm on Oct 11, 2024
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Paterno was the worst. His finger prints were all over the sewer that

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:50 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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called itself Penn St

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The first clue was when he was worried about his image that he had worked on for all those years

Author: THEISMANCARR (17203 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 1:17 am on Oct 11, 2024
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instead of the poor kids who were abused. As for their fans it was amazing how they were all over that red headed coach who first brought it up. What a joke Penn State fans are!

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Never thought that i would be defending Penn State. But I do know Alums and fans (some of them

Author: irishslovak (1358 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 9:02 am on Oct 11, 2024
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relatives) who are very nice people. As far as rooting for SC tomorrow - no way in hell! Former team members can tell some stories of the "mellow Cali SC team members and fans".....

Thread Level: 2

Miami had a 10:30 PM (EDT) kickoff last week, that scheduling is nuts.

Author: SteveM (2197 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2011)

Posted at 10:28 am on Oct 10, 2024
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That's right. Convicts need to get their sleep, but think of their frequent flyer miles.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 10:43 am on Oct 10, 2024
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Those thugs from Miami are used to staying out all night anyway.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17203 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 6:43 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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Different weather is also a challenging issue for all outdoor sports.

Author: Curly1918 (16449 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:39 am on Oct 10, 2024
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The Pac teams dominated the Rose Bowl because Big Ten teams were built to win in a midwestern November, not Pasadena on NYD.

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Yeah, that January weather in SoCal can really stunt a team's performance.

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:53 am on Oct 10, 2024
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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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We need to change that!

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:39 am on Oct 10, 2024
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Please tell me you aren’t serious?

Author: WoodstockIrish (14683 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:20 am on Oct 10, 2024
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The temperature and weather on January 1 in Pasadena is literally perfect. It can even be cold having attended many a Rose Bowl parade.

Do you just make this shit up? Trying to convince someone that 72 degrees and 40% humidity is challenging weather conditions for a Midwest team.


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His point is correct but framed backwards. PAC10 teams play mild weather all season

Author: Turkish (1245 Posts - Joined: Oct 22, 2007)

Posted at 1:29 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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Before field turf, electronic hand and bench warmers, and overcoats were standard, players for the Big 10 needed to be able to thrive in late fall and early winter conditions. That was a different offense and profile of player. All that cold weather conditioning is for nothing in lovely Pasenda.

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To be clear, I think this warm weather vs cold weather team argument is far less relevant now

Author: Turkish (1245 Posts - Joined: Oct 22, 2007)

Posted at 1:40 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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Schools in the Big 10 are just about as likely now to have high powered passing attacks. Back in the day the PAC10 was known for high-powered offenses

Thread Level: 6

It's relevant depending on the time of year AND who's going where...

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:22 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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Examples, FSU coming to South Bend in November/December is a disadvantage for FSU, but ND going down to FSU in November/December wouldn't be a disadvantage for ND.

Switch that to ND going to FSU in August and that's going to be a disadvantage for ND, but it won't bother FSU coming to South Bend in August.

No team from anywhere is going to be hindered by the temperature of going to SoCal for a December/January bowl game.


"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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I’m not sure but, in 2011 Kelly’s first game it rained, lightning, game delay, more rain more

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:06 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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lighting and the humidity was horrendous. So we lost to USF because, that’s Florida weather? I remember going to the linebacker and watching the rest of that debacle with a few beers in AC…

Thread Level: 7

Rain affects both teams equally...

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:25 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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unless one coach prepared their players for wet balls better, but you are going to be acclimated physically to rain.

Extreme Heat and Extreme Cold are completely different things than rain.


"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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In the big 10 teams traveling across two time zones are 1-8

Author: Protagonist (1096 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 9:31 am on Oct 10, 2024
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Now imagine if all of their players were actually taking real classes to graduate.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:14 am on Oct 10, 2024
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I think you might be on to something. 18 schools x 85 players not taking real classes is being

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:57 am on Oct 10, 2024
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hushed up. So Stanford, UCLA, UM and NW which are all ranked above ND slack courses…..

Thread Level: 5

They've been taking all online courses even before covid

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:24 pm on Oct 10, 2024
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Thread Level: 6

Not ND though.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:21 am on Oct 11, 2024
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Thread Level: 4

This is my first thought. So stupid they are all over the country

Author: ndphysics (3931 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 10:39 am on Oct 10, 2024
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Yep. All bemoaning their daunting travel schedules.

Author: LanceManion (7940 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 9:30 am on Oct 10, 2024
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 2

Good point. Will be interesting to see at year’s end

Author: murph78 (1929 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:10 am on Oct 10, 2024
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How trips like USC to UM, Wiscy to USC, or this week’s PSU to USC trip affect their records.

Thread Level: 2

True story.

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:56 am on Oct 10, 2024
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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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