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ND's playoff resume took a hit yesterday.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25812 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:55 am on Nov 3, 2024
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The A&M win went from great to good.

The Navy win went from good to average.

The Louisville win went from average to good.

USC and FSU remain trainwrecks. ND needs to pound them both.

The NIU loss remains the worst amongst all playoff contenders.

Army should present a good win opportunity for ND.

Some more chaos would be nice, Tuesday's first ranking will answer a lot of questions.


Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability

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All we need to worry about is the team winning out which is no lock at all.

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:55 am on Nov 3, 2024
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The rest: what will be will be.

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First Playoff Seed Prediction: 1. OR 2. GA 3. MIA 4. BYU 5. Tosu 6. TX 7. Tenn 8. ND 9. PSU 10. SMU

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:16 am on Nov 3, 2024
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11. IND 12. Boise

"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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B10 may get four with a one loss Indiana. Surprised if they don't Only loss would be OSU.

Author: irishsmashmouth (3294 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2010)

Posted at 8:40 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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Pretty good, but I think PSU and Indiana will be before ND. ND 11th.

Author: NDQuebec (2118 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 5:55 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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Tenn. and Georgia play each other.

Author: bill rekles (841 Posts - Joined: Sep 8, 2009)

Posted at 2:16 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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Does LSU play Alabama? I think Brian will show up for that one if they do.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17199 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 9:15 am on Nov 4, 2024
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I know...this wasn't meant a a prediction of the final, just the initial.

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:21 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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Just one nit

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8035 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:24 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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I believe the CFP will release rankings, but not playoff seedings, on Tues. Obviously one can infer what the seedings will be based on the rankings, but they are two different things.

'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Re: Just one nit

Author: irishsmashmouth (3294 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2010)

Posted at 8:34 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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Author: irishsmashmouth (3294 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2010)

Posted at 8:36 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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Re: Just one nit

Author: irishsmashmouth (3294 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2010)

Posted at 8:34 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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agree, as I stated below

Author: Irish_Demon (2775 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:03 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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Considering that they exist for only one reason

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:18 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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it seems a bit silly for them to not put it out how it would actually look if the season ended right now.

Otherwise they should just wait until the very end after Conf Champ games to release it.


"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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Kind of disagree, Chris

Author: Irish_Demon (2775 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:03 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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For the committee to list a team as a top 4 seed requires a lot of assumptions at this point. Several teams are tied at the top of both the BIG and the SEC. Putting them in ranking order, instead, will show what the committee actually thinks of each team.

I personally would like to see how the committee ranks the teams. It will be easy to see the seeding order after that. The talking heads will analyze the CFP rankings and put them in seeding order.


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I don't think there needs to be any assumptions..

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:22 pm on Nov 4, 2024
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You simply base on an 'if the season ended now' approach and list the team currently in 1st place in the conference as their bye and if it changes you adjust accordingly.

The committee knows the tie breaker rules for the conferences: Conf W/L, overall record, AP ranking, head to head results, common opponents, etc..

No guess work needed, assign byes based on current conference leader then seed the other 8 as you would right now with what has occurred good/bad up to this point.


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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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That would be fine except that there is no current leader in the two big conferences

Author: Irish_Demon (2775 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:15 pm on Nov 4, 2024
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So, yes in order to pick one to put in the top 4 seeds, the committee would have to make huge assumptions. It would just be so much simpler to merely rank the teams the way the committee has always done. I don't know how they will do it. I'm stating how I would like them to do it

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Here's mine: Playoff Seed Prediction: 1. OR 2. GA 3. MIA 4. BYU 5. Tosu 6. TX 7. Tenn 8. PSU

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25812 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:52 am on Nov 3, 2024
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9. Alabama 10. Indiana 11. ND 12. Boise St.

Woosh!


Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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I don't see there being any 2 loss teams in initial release..

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:14 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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I'm sure there will be some 2 loss teams that stay in or play their way in by the end, but not right now.

"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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I think IU beats OSU and faces Oregon

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:20 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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That would be great.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25812 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:50 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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At this point if we just win out we will be fine

Author: McIrish (5322 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:10 am on Nov 3, 2024
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We need all the top teams to win out and win conference titles.

Author: ndphysics (3931 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 6:59 am on Nov 3, 2024
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No surprises or upsets. We also need at least 2 of PSU OSU Indiana with 2 losses. 2 of which are during regular season.

Oregon Georgia Miami etc.

We get into trouble if 2 loss Clemson wins acc and Miami gets in. Or an obvious SEC team that is going to get into playoffs Doesn’t win.

And we win out. That gives us the best chances.


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Nice prediction

Author: WoodstockIrish (14683 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:55 am on Nov 3, 2024
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A&M could lose again.

Just win out and pray. Nothing is a given.

Clearly Navy was overrated as I am sure Army is as well.

Until a team plays a bonafide opponent you have no idea who they are. Posers I’m sure


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Clemson and Pitt are clearly posers.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25812 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:41 am on Nov 3, 2024
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The same with Iowa State.

As much as I like Indiana's start and HC, they haven't played anyone yet either.

Tennessee is underwhelming as well.

Penn State is an eternal poser.


Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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a lot still goes comes down to the eye test. PSU and Texas have no wins close to ND’s.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16209 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:38 am on Nov 3, 2024
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PSU and Texas have no losses close to ND's loss.

Author: SteveM (2197 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2011)

Posted at 6:44 am on Nov 3, 2024
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TX deserves to be ahead, but for the record their best win is Vandy...PSU only quality win is

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:28 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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Illinois.

"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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I heard talking heads today lauding PSU's schedule.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25812 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:59 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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You know, those epic road wins at WVU and Wisconsin.

People actually believe that shit.


Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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Oh, those 4 or 5 loss teams.

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:19 pm on Nov 3, 2024
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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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Gosh, I forgot all about that

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8035 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:02 am on Nov 3, 2024
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Thanks for the reminder!

'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Ultimately this is our greatest risk. And we can’t complain if we don’t make it as a result .

Author: ndphysics (3931 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 7:08 am on Nov 3, 2024
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And the perception of being Independent.

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:52 am on Nov 3, 2024
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a loss is a loss. it’s more about wins. ND will have an easier time getting in at 11-1 thanif it’s

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16209 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:33 am on Nov 3, 2024
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only loss had been to A&M.

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