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Can you imagine this board if we had a Nico Iamaleava situation?

Author: Curly1918 (16163 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 12:50 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Apparently, this began during last year's playoffs... and it wasn't just him!

The NIL/Portal is blowing up the sport.


Link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/tennessee-players-threatened-to-sit-out-of-playoff-game-over-nil-including-iamaleava/ar-AA1CTga4?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Replies to: Can you imagine this board if we had a Nico Iamaleava situation?


Thread Level: 2

Funny how the kids are getting the negative wrap when college's took Billions a year for decades.

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 4:36 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Granted, the kids are acting spoiled. However, they are doing the work and the colleges have benefited more monetarily and still do.

Thread Level: 3

A guy who finished well outside the Top 20 statistically wants $4MM.

Author: jakers (13704 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:02 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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He's getting $2MM. In every quarterback statistic that matters, he was nowhere near the top. And he was at his worst in the biggest games. He then held out of team activities and shopped himself around looking for a 200% raise.

I do get your point about the players simply doing what they're being incentivized to do, but this case is different, in my opinion.


Thread Level: 4

He wants to set the market for a top 25 QB, maybe top 5 will want 8 million for 13 games

Author: holybull101 (10453 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:12 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

Absolutely. I'm less sympathetic to non-FB sports, but football is brutal. Get paid youngsters.

Author: LanceManion (7648 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:25 am on Apr 15, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 3

Are the kids acting spoiled or is it the adults advising the kids acting spoiled and greedy?

Author: Clem (1876 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 7:02 am on Apr 15, 2025
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Either way, it's an ugly look.

Won't be surprised if, in a few years, this kid and the Rashada kid are filing for bankruptcy because their advisors took everything and ran when the money train stops.


Thread Level: 3

Truth. And they getting HIT

Author: KWIRISH (1962 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:42 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

This ^^^^^

Author: NDQuebec (2116 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:08 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Thread Level: 2

That’s a really poorly drafted NIL contract if it didn’t include the possibility of playoff games.

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4604 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:06 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Shame on both sides for inept contract drafting.

Thread Level: 3

How would this contract be enforced against the player?

Author: Curly1918 (16163 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 3:38 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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I suppose that all payments would only be made AFTER the playoffs and none would be owned if there was any breach.

This is only off the top of my head and I don't draft these kinds of agreements. I'm sure there are a ton of other enforcement clauses that could be drafted.


Thread Level: 4

Hmm. Fundamental question: can the contract go beyond name, image and likeness.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:07 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Can a booster pay the player to show up to a game and play in it.

I was thinking NIL value (the value being sold by the player and supposedly purchased by the booster) would increase with playing time...especially in playoff games. So, you could structure payments based on that in addition to just showing up in an ad. But, I don't know.

More fundamental: Can a third party outright pay a player to perform in an otherwise amateur sport? If not, why not?

I assume these answers are out there, but I haven't looked into them.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 3

Exactly. Weird, huh? Imagine an NFL contract not contemplating the playoffs/Super Bowl.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:29 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 2

Congress needs to fix this now.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25728 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:57 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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The "representation" most of these players have are straight-up clowns, with zero law, accounting, or finance background.

Players asking for more money before the playoffs start is unfuckingbelievable.


Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 3

They should be able to fix this without government control or "help".

Author: THEISMANCARR (17142 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 3:21 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

Seems the only impetus to really fix this will be when it starts to fail to the point that it hurts

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33386 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:19 pm on Apr 16, 2025
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...the big programs/conferences.

My concern is that it may be too late at that point.

We will all see...


Thread Level: 3

Delete.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17142 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 3:20 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

why should the govt get involved?

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:57 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

Agreed. They can't fix their own budget, nor anyone else's. But... they do know how to waste $$

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 4:37 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

Some rules would help. A complete set of rules would be best.

Author: ndphysics (3896 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 2:07 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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I know players aren’t unionized, so the rules would be put in place by whom? Can’t be the universities but I can’t see the NCAA doing it either.

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Thread Level: 4

NCAA can't do it because the courts won't let them. That's how this all started.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:19 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 5

So we either need a collective agreement between 2 parties or some legislation which sounds silly.

Author: ndphysics (3896 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 3:57 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Thread Level: 6

I think that is right. Anti-trust exception/collective bargaining....?

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:15 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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The schools could form a professional league to employ the players, and try to qualify for the same type of legal status that one of the other professional leagues have.

Eventually, the schools will just be licensing their logos, and sharing in profits......and then "college football" will cease to exist. It will just be another professional sport league.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 7

Either way the whole free agent go to the highest bidder each season shit needs

Author: ndphysics (3896 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 7:24 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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To be controlled. This is far worse than professional sports leagues where a contract bonds players and teams for a defined term which is almost never 1 year.

The whole moving around every season crap has to stop or be severely curtailed.


Thread Level: 8

The NIL folks need to stop it by contract.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 12:29 am on Apr 15, 2025
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Then if ND locks in a player for 4 years, another school would have to buy out his contract by paying ND.

Maybe that is what is happening, but it seems like they are offering 1 year contracts


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 9

"Nico Iamaleava signed a four-year deal worth $8 million with Spyre Sports Group, the NIL collective

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33386 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:22 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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.. for Tennessee in 2022."

Can't stop pros...or college pros...from holding out if they later don't like the contract they signed...


Thread Level: 10

I get the holding out part but should not be able to walk away and sign

Author: ndphysics (3896 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 5:44 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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Elsewhere if u have a contract in place. No way he should get another deal at another school because he doesn’t like this one short of behind released from it.

U can’t do that in the nfl unless u broker a trade or a release but the team is obligated to cooperate.


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Thread Level: 11

I agree. The party you contract with has to be compensated if you take your services elsewhere.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33386 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:14 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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These joke contracts are payment for name, image and likeness only while you are at that institution though.

I think that we all know this is a farce, but that is what they are nominally for. If you leave they cease by their nature, since they could conceivably still pay for your "name, image and likeness" (which still exists at your next landing spot) but, of course, they only wish to pay for it at Tennessee say...and not at a North Carolina...or elsewhere.

The new "system" is constructed on a fantasy...


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Thread Level: 2

If he were a superstar, the consensus would have been to pay him

Author: ndunabomber (6412 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:27 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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If he had numbers like Trevor Lawrence, then most folks here would said that paying him more would have been worth it.

Iamaleava had decent, but not great, numbers.

213-334 passing, 2616 yards, 19 TD, 5 INT.

I wouldn't have said that his current pay of $2.4 million would have justified that, much less the $4 million he was allegedly demanding. You have to earn your keep, after all.

That offense was centered around their superstar RB, Dylan Sampson, and he's the only guy on that team that I would have said deserved a pay raise (his NIL pay was $1 million in 2024) had he stayed.


Thread Level: 2

One man's leverage is another man's BS. This can all be addressed through contracts.

Author: LanceManion (7648 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 1:07 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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