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ND Coordinators have been Skewered

hipND 4509 posts Original UHND Member
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for the performances (or lack thereof) last few weeks. And rightfully so. They both got out-schemed at BYU. And the first half vs. Navy was bang-head-against -the-wall inexplicable.

I believe we will need to present Miami packages (on both sides of the ball) yet seen on game film to be successful. I think that will be the case. Hate to make the analogy, but like what Kelly did to Clemson in '20.

Oh, and play proactive instead of "keep everything in front of us" BS.

Beat Miami.

  • Level 1

    Re: ND Coordinators have been Skewered

    Al Golden is sorely missed. It seems like it is rare to have both coordinators coaching at high levels. We had that last in 2024. Last year Denbrock whiffed on Miami then pretty darn good thereafter. Ash has been very bad on all big games last year and thus far this year. If he can’t deliver Saturday, his seat should be red hot. Denbrock did well in 2024, but needs an excellent game plan on Saturday. I don’t mind if either lose, as long as they set up their players to execute, but not getting properly aligned, or miscommunication on the back end, or playing soft is inexcusable. I’m OK with any player getting beat or out played as long as they are in position to make the play, and the coordinators are calling their signals to put the players in position to succeed. The slow starts the past few games is unacceptable.

    • Level 2

      I’m less sympathetic when the players are professionals.

      Back when we had kids playing for a roof over their head, makes sense. But now it’s on the coaches and players. And if Carr is under achieving or isn’t a great fit for Denbrock’s offense, shame on us for letting Minchey get away.

      Dead-eye Pete with 20 pounds of swingin' meat.
    • Level 2

      We are not ungrateful. And we are simply reacting (not overreacting) to expectations created

      by the silly "leave no doubt" mantra. What a Barney Fife set-up there.

      Winning changes everything.

      • Level 3

        Fans are customers, players/coaches are paid. You are grateful when the product is satisfactory.

        $700 a ticket you shouldnt have to worry they'll shit the bed.

      • Level 3

        Goolsby addresses the unrealistic expectations many fans have.

        He suggests our OL, D Backfield and even Carr have yet to achieve the elite status that many writers bestowed upon them early on.

        • Level 4

          This is correct. Carr is good, not great. He has not really markedly improved over last year.

          In the only big games he's played in, he's lost. The most recent, the BYU game, was easily his worst performance in an ND uniform. Granted, he's only played 19 games or so. He was just overhyped coming into the season and has regressed more than he's progressed.

          I'm not down on Carr, but the college game is different from the pros. Denbrock's offensive scheme is extremely vanilla and pro-oriented. Carr probably tests well for the pros and will do fine at that level, but the problem is, he's in college now. Now is what matters. If you can't win convincingly here, then what's the point?

          The college game is a lot more backyard football. Make some plays, show a little controlled reckless abandon, and create something when things break down. That's just not Carr. Nor is it how Denbrock calls or plans a game, which only compounds the boringness of his offense.

          Not to mention, we have okay backs, not elite ones. Having elite backs last year masked both the boringness of Denbrock's offense and Carr's undeveloped skill set. They saved us more than we realize, along with an otherwise soft schedule outside of a couple of games here and there.

          When your offense requires the QB to be perfect, he's not a running threat at all, and you have a decent but not great backfield, then we pretty much get what we're getting.

          Add this to the laundry list of problems with Ash, and you get an extremely talented team that's underperforming. Sprinkle in minimal fire and passion, and you get people questioning things, with a lingering sense of doubt.

          On the Ash front, it was a bad hire. Players like Moore, Shuler, and Bowen all look worse this year. Timid, out of position, late, and overall, they just seem to be thinking more than playing.

          Bowen, for example, is a great LB. He's a downhill, see-ball, get-ball type of linebacker. Yet we play a scheme under Ash that has him dropping into pass coverage a lot. For all the things he's good at, he's pretty terrible in coverage. A lot of the big plays in our losses have come when he's been in coverage.

          That's not a knock on Bowen. He's been great. It's an example of an inept defensive coordinator. Take the best player on your defense, your lifeblood, and consistently scheme him into situations that expose his biggest weaknesses. It's just dumb.

          It's not that ND won't finish with a good record in 2026. We don't play anyone. How could we not?

          It's that we're severely underperforming relative to our talent. It feels like we're being shortchanged on the coaching side of the fence.

          • Level 5

            Doesn’t sound like you agree at all.

            How was Bowen put in a bad position?

            Be specific. Where would you have put him?

            Be specific.

            He was leading the team in tackles when he went down.

            • Level 6

              Re: Doesn’t sound like you agree at all.

              I'm afraid you are not reading.

              I explicitly stated that Bowen was a very good defender and good at finding the ball, but his skill set is not coverage. Yet Ash, plays him in coverage a lot. He gets beat a lot in coverage, and zone is a weaker skill for him.

              Sorry, I don't have time to recite every down but several of the big losses he was unable to cover. UNC's TE had a field day with us as well, which would have been mostly on Bowen and Schuler. The middle of our pass D has been very poor this year / under Ash. It's a glaring weak spot. This is not a knock on Bowen, but on Ash.

              "Yet we play a scheme under Ash that has him dropping into pass coverage a lot. For all the things he's good at, he's pretty terrible in coverage. A lot of the big plays in our losses have come when he's been in coverage."

              • Level 7

                Here is your Bowen data...

                Yes. The 2026 advanced statistics strongly support your assessment of Drayk Bowen. He is a very good run defender and a significantly below-average pass coverage linebacker, according to Pro Football Focus (PFF).

                2026 PFF grades

                Run defense

                79.5

                Pass coverage

                49.3

                Overall defense

                65.8

                Source: PFF 2026 player grades, updated November 2, 2026. Grades are on a 0–100 scale, not percentiles.

                NCAA and PFF stats

                Metric

                PFF grade

                Rank among 758 qualified LBs

                Run defense

                79.5

                180th

                Pass coverage

                49.3

                668th

                Overall defense

                65.8

                461st

                Pass rush

                59.0

                501st

                The difference is striking:

                • His run-defense grade is 30.2 points higher than his coverage grade.
                • He ranks approximately in the top 24% of qualified linebackers against the run.
                • He ranks in the bottom 12% in pass coverage.

                This is precisely the profile of a linebacker who can be an asset against physical rushing attacks but a vulnerability when offenses force him to defend space.

                Additional evidence

                PFF also reports the following for Bowen in 2026:

                Metric

                Value

                Coverage snaps

                136

                Run-defense snaps

                153

                Passer rating allowed when targeted

                97.3

                Defensive stops

                20

                Missed tackles

                1

                NCAA and PFF stats

                The 97.3 passer rating allowed supports the concern about coverage, while the low missed-tackle total supports his reputation as a reliable tackler. However, PFF's snap and tackle totals differ from the latest official box scores, so I would treat these figures as provisional.

                Is this a recurring weakness?

                There's some evidence it is. An independent scouting assessment references a previous 59.2 coverage grade, and PFF reported that Bowen's overall defensive grade declined from 80.7 in 2024 to 70.7 in 2025.

                2027 NFL Draft LB+1

                The important distinction is that those figures do not establish that his coverage was equally poor in every season.

                What this means for Notre Dame

                My interpretation is that Bowen's value is disproportionately concentrated near the line of scrimmage.

                Against a team that attacks linebackers with crossing routes, tight ends, running backs releasing into the flats, and play-action concepts, his weaknesses could become much more consequential.

                The next statistic I'd want is yards allowed per coverage snap and completion percentage allowed when targeted, ideally separated into man and zone coverage. Those would tell us whether the weakness is primarily athletic, related to recognition and positioning, or scheme-dependent.

                You can review his numbers directly on Bowen's PFF player profile.

            • Level 6

              "D Backfield and even Carr have yet to achieve the elite status"

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